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Gingerlove05 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 17:44 pm
Chris_jennings wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 16:04 pm Don't beet yourself up about it we all apart from the 'elite' have lost fish when we started out.
Even the elite will have lost fish, everyone has to start somewhere. They just might not admit it ;)
Just who are these elite anyway? Everyone is a starter.... ;) :)
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VikingMummy2015 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:01 am You need a tub (get the smallest you can) of Seachem Equilibrium. Very gradually raise the hardness and remain with the fish you have. Hopefully they’ll survive and either naturally increase their numbers as livebearers do, or they’ll gradually die off over time. Or you can wait for the fin issues to resolve then add other fish which are suited to a wide range of water hardness (eg white cloud mountain minnows).

Once you no longer have dedicated hard water fish, you can then gradually reduce the hardness again back to natural water and add in soft water species.
Thank you. This whole thing has left me feeling awful. Thankfully the fin that was worst affected seems to be getting better. I don’t know if this happened from stress or if they came home from the lfs with it. Only issue I now have is I have 2 males and 1 female and obviously I don’t want to buy any more platys! Stupidly took my children in to pets at home just to look and now they want guppies because they were so pretty but I explained we would have the exact same problem with them! I now have no idea what other fish to get. Think I will need to look at getting an assassin snail to get rid of all my pests snails though!
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If you harden the water, you can absolutely add guppies (my kids wanted them when they were younger too), and just add a group of males to avoid fry.
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Don't feel awful, we've all been there.
It's a complicated subject when you start out, and the shops don't always give the best info to help newbies.
When I started in the 1960s I lived in a hard water area and wondered why I lost so many tetras and gourami.....I didn't learn properly until the original forum turned up in about 2000.....this is the second version of it. ;)
It was very hard to get the right info in those days.
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I stopped updating because I felt terrible and I’m still an awful person because I didn’t alter the water but kept the platys/swords.I did add neon terra and they all seem happy together Platy gave birth last night, can see at least 4 fry. Fingers crossed they don’t get eaten.
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Titchyfeep wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 14:42 pm I stopped updating because I felt terrible and I’m still an awful person because I didn’t alter the water but kept the platys/swords.I did add neon terra and they all seem happy together Platy gave birth last night, can see at least 4 fry. Fingers crossed they don’t get eaten.
Dont feel too bad, we all make mistakes at the start. But i know what you mean, i still feel bad for our first few fish. And as Ian mentioned shops are not always helpful and our first shop was useless as we found out. The trouble is shops are running a business and are trying to make a sale.
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Titchyfeep wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 14:42 pm I stopped updating because I felt terrible and I’m still an awful person because I didn’t alter the water but kept the platys/swords.I did add neon terra and they all seem happy together Platy gave birth last night, can see at least 4 fry. Fingers crossed they don’t get eaten.
I’ve been back keeping fish for 18 months after a 20 year break. I couldn’t list all the mistakes I’ve made during that time because there are too many. You can only try your best and take advice. Don’t feel bad.
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I've been keeping fish on-and-off since the 1960s. If I listed all the mistakes I've ever made I'm sure most people would throw a complete wobbly....all I can do is help people not to make the same ones.
You just have to learn to try and not do it again (and again in some cases ;) ) and not feel bad.
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plankton wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:38 am
Gingerlove05 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 17:44 pm
Chris_jennings wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 16:04 pm Don't beet yourself up about it we all apart from the 'elite' have lost fish when we started out.
Even the elite will have lost fish, everyone has to start somewhere. They just might not admit it ;)
Just who are these elite anyway? Everyone is a starter.... ;) :)
'elite' ...Sheep farmers I think @plankton :grin:
Titchyfeep wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 23:13 pm This whole thing has left me feeling awful.
Everyone has fish loses, even the 'elite' among us. I've kept freshwater tropical fish (with five year stint in Marine reefkeeping) for forty years and it can still happen. My advice, start keeping a aquarium journal, list everything, dosing, fish species, water parameters in your aquarium etc and try to learn from your mistakes and research everything before buying, remember we've all been there. I run a spreadsheet on my computer but there is various apps you can get for your phone or tablet. Failing that, the old fashioned way ...pen and paper.

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Just over two years ago I had in quarantine a group of Harlequin Rasboras (Trigonostigma heteromorpha) and to this day I still couldn't tell you why they died. All water parameters where good and they were feeding, yet every morning I find one had passed away during the night. My conclusion, I guessed they must of had some sort of internal parasite, as those that died never put any weight on. I find these days many captive bred fish species are not as strong as they used to be.
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