Hi all
Since this looks to be becoming a general discussion, what would be the easiest live food to breed for the fish (Mrs. Ynotfish insists on it also being the least messy!)?
I see these artemia kits in the Internet, would that be a candidate, and what should I look for in a good kit?
Thanks!
P.S. Just for clarity, this was part of a different thread and I guess it got moved here by A.N.Admin.
Artemia kits
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This all depends what egg laying species you what to breed. While you can use Artemia, fry like many Barb, Danio, Rasbora or Tetras species will find these newly hatched shrimp far to large for them to consume. Larger fry will eat them but too many Brine shrimp can cause their demise. The other issue is the ability to produce enough newly hatched Artemia. Few days old Artemia may have grown to large for the fry to eat, so a constant fresh supply is needed. Last time I was breeding Angelfish, I had six upturned 2 litre Coke bottles mounted on the wall with Artemia in various stages from eggs, newly hatched, to a few days old and this was for two batches of fry, fed two to three times a day. Also to feed the fry you need a Artemia net to remove them from the salt water as with most aquarium nets, the young Brine shrimp will pass straight through the mesh. Most Artemia kits are only really useful for a small amounts for medium sized fry, in other words, livebearer size fry.YnotFish wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:08 am Hi all
Since this looks to be becoming a general discussion, what would be the easiest live food to breed for the fish (Mrs. Ynotfish insists on it also being the least messy!)?
I see these artemia kits in the Internet, would that be a candidate, and what should I look for in a good kit?
Thanks!
With many fish species, the fry are very tiny when first hatched and after the yolk sac is finished they need very small, micro sized live foods like infusoria to survive. Infusoria is easy enough to culture but I should imagine the boss won't like that and the next step up for the fry is micro worm cultures but these get smelly after a few days. Most aquatic prepared foods are either to large or if care is not taken can contaminate the water column in short order.
So what are you thinking of trying to breed?
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Ah, I should have been more specific.
I am not trying to breed anything (in fact, I would like to stop my mollies breeding at all, but that is a different "kettle of fish").
I am just looking at a way of getting some nice live food for my fish, so I don't have to go the LFS every week to get them their treats.
Cheers!
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What's your budget?
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Two Budgerigars, then around £70.
Oh, didn't know that. You living and working over there or resident?
Getting a bit late now, but a bucket of water in the garden and collect Mosquito larvae. The same can be done with Daphnia but your better of doing this indoors, the Mosquito larvae prey on the eggs and small Daphnia. Small aquarium or bucket, tank water and feed with yeast powder. Although don't give too much Daphnia to your fish unless they're constipated.
As for Brine Shrimp, the Hobby Artemia breeder hatchery is supposed to be very good.
Link: Hobby - Artemia Brine Shrimp Eggs Breeder Hatchery
Oh, didn't know that. You living and working over there or resident?
Getting a bit late now, but a bucket of water in the garden and collect Mosquito larvae. The same can be done with Daphnia but your better of doing this indoors, the Mosquito larvae prey on the eggs and small Daphnia. Small aquarium or bucket, tank water and feed with yeast powder. Although don't give too much Daphnia to your fish unless they're constipated.
As for Brine Shrimp, the Hobby Artemia breeder hatchery is supposed to be very good.
Link: Hobby - Artemia Brine Shrimp Eggs Breeder Hatchery
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The only live food I've tried and kept going is microworms. Just a takeaway tube with some porridge in, throw is a few worms to start, then just stir it up and put some yeast in to feed it every couple of days. After 4-6 weeks it gets a bit goopy and smelly, so just get fresh made porridge, add 5-10% of the stinky stuff, mix it well and withing 48hrs the next tub is up and running.YnotFish wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:08 am Hi all
Since this looks to be becoming a general discussion, what would be the easiest live food to breed for the fish (Mrs. Ynotfish insists on it also being the least messy!)?
I see these artemia kits in the Internet, would that be a candidate, and what should I look for in a good kit?
Thanks!
P.S. Just for clarity, this was part of a different thread and I guess it got moved here by A.N.Admin.
When the colony is producing well, the excess just climb up the sides, so just run something (fork, spoon, finger, etc) around the sides and drop into the tank. Wash everything well after.
I've read microfilm is great for new fry so Ive added dried oak leaves to the tank a few days before fry get microworms as many microorganisms grow on the rotting leaves.
Hope thay helps.
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I use Smash potato for my Walter worms and after a while it does smell.
Just keep the lid on the pot, out of sight of the Mrs and happy days.
Just keep the lid on the pot, out of sight of the Mrs and happy days.
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I have to say I'm a bit bemused by several mentions hereabouts of microworm cultures being smelly. Well, I don't have to - but I will!
Here's a post that outlines 'my' method, made not that long after I'd set it/them up: https://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/in ... #msg430771 .
And here's a pic of one just now :
It's important to note that Mrs.V! can detect and complain about smells that are diluted to an almost homeopathic degree. She can, for instance, identify the presence of a pile of farmyard manure from a distance of several hundred yards, and upwind! However she has not once moaned about any smells coming from my microworm cultures.
What am I doing wrong?
Here's a post that outlines 'my' method, made not that long after I'd set it/them up: https://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/in ... #msg430771 .
And here's a pic of one just now :
It's important to note that Mrs.V! can detect and complain about smells that are diluted to an almost homeopathic degree. She can, for instance, identify the presence of a pile of farmyard manure from a distance of several hundred yards, and upwind! However she has not once moaned about any smells coming from my microworm cultures.
What am I doing wrong?