Oranda goldfish

Barbs, Danios, Rasboras, Sharks, Golfish, Koi.
Post Reply
Jay99
Junior Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 18:08 pm
Has liked: 43 times
Been liked: 17 times

I’m thinking about setting up a tank for 2 Oranda, or maybe Ranchu goldfish soon, but I’m unsure what substrate is best.

I’ve read online that gravel isn’t the best because it can scratch the fish.

Sand is good because they like to sift through the sand looking for food.

A bare bottom tank is good because it’s easy to keep clean.

What are your thoughts on this?
User avatar
VikingMummy2015
TOTM Winner
TOTM Winner
Posts: 2663
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:40 am
Has liked: 845 times
Been liked: 1818 times

They *say* bare bottom is easier to keep clean but it looks pretty horrible for most of the time and isn’t very natural for the fish. Go for sand to encourage that more natural behaviour.
240L Fluval Roma with Oase 600 Biomaster: 1 German red bristlenose, 4 male cherry barbs, 6 standard rummynose, 3 golden rummynose tetra, 9 emperor tetra, 14 cardinal tetra, 2 hengeli rasbora, 3 nerite snails, 1 adult Sulawesi snail and multiple juveniles continually appearing.

Parameters: gH2, kH1, pH7.4 (tap).
Fish fiend since October 2017.
Jay99
Junior Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 18:08 pm
Has liked: 43 times
Been liked: 17 times

VikingMummy2015 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:52 am They *say* bare bottom is easier to keep clean but it looks pretty horrible for most of the time and isn’t very natural for the fish. Go for sand to encourage that more natural behaviour.
Thanks, I will go with sand then, is there much different between aquarium sand and children’s play sand? Only asking because the range are selling it pretty cheap at the moment lol
User avatar
VikingMummy2015
TOTM Winner
TOTM Winner
Posts: 2663
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:40 am
Has liked: 845 times
Been liked: 1818 times

Not for a goldie tank (presumably you’re not going for live plants). Just rinse and rinse and rinse and rinse it. I had playsand in my previous tank and used root tabs under the plants.
Just checking what size tank you’re getting though as goodies need a LOT more room than you might think.
240L Fluval Roma with Oase 600 Biomaster: 1 German red bristlenose, 4 male cherry barbs, 6 standard rummynose, 3 golden rummynose tetra, 9 emperor tetra, 14 cardinal tetra, 2 hengeli rasbora, 3 nerite snails, 1 adult Sulawesi snail and multiple juveniles continually appearing.

Parameters: gH2, kH1, pH7.4 (tap).
Fish fiend since October 2017.
User avatar
fr499y
Admin - TOTM Winner
Admin - TOTM Winner
Posts: 8284
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2018 16:04 pm
Location: West Midlands
Has liked: 1773 times
Been liked: 4164 times

If you are using playsand and no plants ( they don't usually survive in a goldy tank anyway! ) then go with a thin layer of play sand of up to 20mm :)
User avatar
plankton
Super Mod
Super Mod
Posts: 12204
Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2018 17:02 pm
Location: S. Derbyshire
Has liked: 5030 times
Been liked: 3395 times

150l for one fancy goldfish, plus 50l for every additional fish. ;)
@fr499y suggestion for depth of sand should be fine, maybe even slightly less..... :)
Jay99
Junior Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 18:08 pm
Has liked: 43 times
Been liked: 17 times

VikingMummy2015 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:30 am Not for a goldie tank (presumably you’re not going for live plants). Just rinse and rinse and rinse and rinse it. I had playsand in my previous tank and used root tabs under the plants.
Just checking what size tank you’re getting though as goodies need a LOT more room than you might think.
I was going to keep a pair of small ones 1 - 2” in an 88l tank until they grow a bit then transfer them to a bigger one?
User avatar
plankton
Super Mod
Super Mod
Posts: 12204
Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2018 17:02 pm
Location: S. Derbyshire
Has liked: 5030 times
Been liked: 3395 times

I recommend the big tank to start, they do grow faster than commons, but they are dirty and need good filtration.
The fancies usually only live about 10-12 years, whereas the commons can live between 40 and 80 years (80 is the record I think, although I still think that may have been a koi, not a common).
Post Reply