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[Bit of 'tongue-in-cheek' posting this here, but anyway ...]


Meet my new collection :

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Exciting, isn't it?! OK - a bit closer ...

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What are these motionless dotty-grey things occurring in pairs in a small dish of water? For scale: a pair is typically less than 1mm across (inclusive of outer layer).


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First seeing this, I was going suggest you go and see a Doctor @Vale!. :grin:
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Reminds me of the mites we had early summer from the damn birds *shudders*
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If you videod them would that make it the Dot Matrix? I'd like to see old Keanu avoiding all those.....
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Enjoy your fish, shrimps and snails!
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I have to admit @Vale! I had to look up Moina.

Apparently often called Japanese Daphnia. So where do you get this cultures?
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They are pretty hard to get hold of as a culture per se, most places are just selling eggs.

@Vale! that is interesting. I can still only identify moina with what looks like a stripe down the middle and a dot on one side :D , it threw me with the two dots.
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@Martinspuddle

[I take it "you" means 'everyone' rather than me?]

As FB observes, live-and-swimming-around cultures are pretty hard to get hold of in Blighty. Very much more common sur le Continent and it used to be easy to get them direct from (say) Germany or Hungary ; what with the political changes in recent years I'm not sure that's the case now. I think the Danish vendor from whom I sourced my Dero re-start culture a couple of months back (an easy and quick transaction) also may sell live Moina from time to time - but I'd have to contact him to verify. There are sellers offering live cultures on ebay but, having tested two of them to check (I felt it was worth the slight expense to find out) I can tell you that this route is unreliable : the two sellers involved didn't realise that the difference and they were advertising Moina but selling Daphnia! The most reliable UK source that I know of is in Milton Keynes :laugh:

There are (I think I remember) about eight species of Moina, a couple of which are marine. It's not uncommon to see Moina salina for sale in those little fridges that some LFS's have but I'm not at all sure if they would adapt to freshwater : I rather think not. I've never seen freshwater Moina for sale in an LFS that I've visited. The species that I have, incidentally, is Moina macrocopa. At least one of the other species is even tinier than those.

Most Moina culture starters come in the form of ephippia accompanied by some sort of granular medium and these are usually available via ebay anytime and usually from tropically-based sources. Availability can be seasonal, so keep checking a seller from time to time if it's currently saying 'out of stock'.

@FishBubs I think the 'stripe down the middle' must be the gut - it usually stands out starkly if it's full?

@plankton I'm afraid I've not seen that film, so I don't 'get' the reference, sorry!
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woohh wohh wohhh ang on a minute @Vale! How have you not seen The Matrix ?
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'You' ...always. ;)
Vale! wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:24 am As FB observes, live-and-swimming-around cultures are pretty hard to get hold of in Blighty.
Over the years of fishkeeping, it's stuck me that we in Blighty, always seem behind with such things. So often in the past I've heard of foods, live cultures and other techniques that fishkeepers were using abroad, particularly by Dutch and German fishkeepers, yet just not available here. Now the internet has changed that to a large degree but there again it isn't always simple to get hold of some of these things.

Think most aquatic stores here wouldn't even heard of a Moina culture if you asked them.
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fr499y wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:51 pm woohh wohh wohhh ang on a minute @Vale! How have you not seen The Matrix ?
Don't be silly @fr499y, Mr. V doesn't have time for watching such things ...he's to busy splitting atoms! :D
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